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Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-16 10:15
by jtx
Hello,

I am planning to buy a Kikkin to bypass the preamp in my Majik Dsm/3.

Before that, i need to know if i could use all the analogue inputs of the DSM in this configuration. I have not read clear information about this.
There is an old thread where it is mentioned that the phono stage of the Majik DSM would work but there is nothing about the other inputs.

Thank you for your help !

Jtx

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-16 13:04
by willem kuis
Hi,

If your Majik Dsm/3 has a RCA Pre-out (fixed) I do not see why it should not work.
See: https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/ ... _Variants)

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-16 13:22
by Sopper
Unclear how you want to bypass the preamp section
Just use the dsm as streamer feeding the preamp kikkin and kikking going to a power amp?

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-16 13:23
by jtx
willem kuis wrote: 2023-12-16 13:04 Hi,

If your Majik Dsm/3 has a RCA Pre-out (fixed) I do not see why it should not work.
See: https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/ ... _Variants)
Thanks Willem ;-)

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-16 13:24
by jtx
Sopper wrote: 2023-12-16 13:22 Unclear how you want to bypass the preamp section
Just use the dsm as streamer feeding the preamp kikkin and kikking going to a power amp?
Yes , exactly. And in doing so, i hope i can enjoy the inputs of the Dsm

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-16 13:35
by Sopper
It should be possible then

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-16 13:42
by jtx
Ok, thank you Sopper

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-16 23:41
by Charlie1
On a side note, Kikkin is reverse phase like the old Kairn - in case you didn't know or had forgotten.

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-17 00:32
by lejonklou
Charlie1 wrote: 2023-12-16 23:41 On a side note, Kikkin is reverse phase like the old Kairn - in case you didn't know or had forgotten.
True. But when swapping red and black connectors on the back of the speakers, please do compare which absolute phase sounds best. Because even if there ought to be a right and wrong on this issue, I find that systems with a Kikkin usually don’t benefit from the absolute phase being corrected. I don’t know why this is the case.

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-17 13:33
by jtx
Thank you very much for clairifying this,
i was not aware of this reverse phase thing :-)

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-17 13:47
by stefan
jtx wrote: 2023-12-16 13:24
Sopper wrote: 2023-12-16 13:22 Unclear how you want to bypass the preamp section
Just use the dsm as streamer feeding the preamp kikkin and kikking going to a power amp?
Yes , exactly. And in doing so, i hope i can enjoy the inputs of the Dsm
No, problem! Set preout to fixed and connect to whatever preamp you want. You can use MDSM as a streamer/phono stage and all inputs (HDMI/digital/analog). I've done this in the past with ADSM into Klimax Kontrol, same thing really.

But in the case of MDSM with external preamp, it seems that you must use an external poweramp as well.

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-17 15:11
by jtx
That 's perfect ! I
have a Tundra so it should work.

Thank you Stefan

Re: Kikkin into Mdsm/3

Posted: 2023-12-19 01:07
by ThomasOK
Yes, it will work just fine. I'm not going into another preamp so I have the pre-amp outputs adjustable but this feeds active speakers and all inputs work through the system. As stefan mentions you would want to set the pre-out to fixed which will also disable the internal volume control and keep the analog inputs analog through the MDS.